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#37768 - 01/04/10 01:15 PM awesometastic
+Solistus +Solistus Gutter Trash Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 3930	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSR6Gm-dB6Y Discuss. _________________________ I've parted ways with the clan and won't be checking this forum much. AIM me.
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#37772 - 01/04/10 06:04 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: +Solistus]
Tyr Tyr Overdosed Registered: 12/27/01 Posts: 5224 Loc: Lexington,KY	moof _________________________ "The weak die and the strong survive. If someone is too much of a pussy to put up with a little newbie hazing, we don't really need them."-Dew "We shall rule over this land and we shall call it...this land"-Wash
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#37774 - 01/04/10 06:32 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Tyr]
Trekkie Trekkie Overdosed Registered: 06/18/00 Posts: 5296 Loc: Houston, TX	Quality could be tons better. _________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#37775 - 01/04/10 07:00 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Trekkie]
+Cube +Cube Overdosed Registered: 01/28/01 Posts: 7278 Loc: Toronto, Ontario	Moof indeed. +1 for the dogcow cameo. _________________________ Bloggerific
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#37777 - 01/04/10 07:13 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: +Cube]
Jaco Jaco Rehab Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 10677	I don't like it.
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#37778 - 01/04/10 07:14 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
Tyr Tyr Overdosed Registered: 12/27/01 Posts: 5224 Loc: Lexington,KY	Originally Posted By: Jaco I don't like it. you don't like the dogcow? _________________________ "The weak die and the strong survive. If someone is too much of a pussy to put up with a little newbie hazing, we don't really need them."-Dew "We shall rule over this land and we shall call it...this land"-Wash
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#37781 - 01/05/10 04:42 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Tyr]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	All those jerk new-age mac users who bitch and moan about how apple doesn't allow other hardware manufacturers to run OSX. People actually ask me about this at work, fellow employees and customers. I just have to give them a blast to the past history lesson and explain to them why they are retarded. _________________________ Signature
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#37782 - 01/05/10 05:20 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: The Tony]
Tyr Tyr Overdosed Registered: 12/27/01 Posts: 5224 Loc: Lexington,KY	wtg Tony! _________________________ "The weak die and the strong survive. If someone is too much of a pussy to put up with a little newbie hazing, we don't really need them."-Dew "We shall rule over this land and we shall call it...this land"-Wash
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#37783 - 01/05/10 05:54 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Tyr]
SinVulture_ SinVulture_ Overdosed Registered: 06/26/00 Posts: 6229 Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada	F- _________________________ I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. -Aristotle
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#37788 - 01/05/10 10:29 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: SinVulture_]
Jaco Jaco Rehab Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 10677	Tony: you are the source of all of my credibility.
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#37798 - 01/06/10 06:59 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	Good, I'm glad I've done something worthwhile in this world. How's this for credibility? _________________________ Signature
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#37800 - 01/06/10 09:44 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
+Cube +Cube Overdosed Registered: 01/28/01 Posts: 7278 Loc: Toronto, Ontario	And those who want to, can run on standard PC hardware $\:\)$ _________________________ Bloggerific
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#37806 - 01/07/10 10:08 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: +Cube]
Jaco Jaco Rehab Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 10677	Who the fuck is that?
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#37807 - 01/07/10 11:07 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	Plus I honestly don't know what brought that picture out. I was kind of drunk and looking through some old mAc website files and found it. I was also drunk and trying to be funny. _________________________ Signature
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#37808 - 01/07/10 11:56 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: The Tony]
Jaco Jaco Rehab Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 10677	lol@Plus I'm pretty sure he's in Afghanistan or some sorry shit right now
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#37809 - 01/07/10 11:57 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
Jaco Jaco Rehab Registered: 06/19/00 Posts: 10677	pumpkin pie-hair cutted-freak
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#37813 - 01/07/10 05:57 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Jaco]
Trekkie Trekkie Overdosed Registered: 06/18/00 Posts: 5296 Loc: Houston, TX	Hey Tony, could you pass it up the chain at work that whoever it was that made the decision to switch the iPods from FireWire to USB interfaces needs to be fired? Thanks. _________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#37814 - 01/07/10 07:11 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: Trekkie]
harley harley Overdosed Registered: 06/23/00 Posts: 6555 Loc: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Tarth probably has a bit more sway.
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#37815 - 01/07/10 07:55 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: harley]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	Apple failed with the firewire licensing. They charged too much for it and cheap minimalist PC parts manufacturers did not see the advantage of paying $3 more per MLB for firewire instead of USB (or in addition to). So since apple failed in that endeavor, in order to appeal to the Windows world, they had to use the connection format that applied to 90% of the market. That connection format was USB. But aside from that, yes, I agree with you. _________________________ Signature
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#37817 - 01/08/10 07:17 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: The Tony]
+Cube +Cube Overdosed Registered: 01/28/01 Posts: 7278 Loc: Toronto, Ontario	Does USB vs. Firewire really matter that much on an iPod? The flash based iPods aren't that big and you're rarely swapping out the entire storage. The HD players are probably limited by the write speed to the HD, not the interface right? _________________________ Bloggerific
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#37818 - 01/08/10 07:56 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: +Cube]
Trekkie Trekkie Overdosed Registered: 06/18/00 Posts: 5296 Loc: Houston, TX	Originally Posted By: +Cube Does USB vs. Firewire really matter that much on an iPod? Very much so and it's a difference I run into every few months. It's not so much either interfaces max throughput but their sustainable throughput. This is why FireWire 400 with it's lower theoretical 400 Mbps max beats the crap off of USB 2 with its max of 480 Mbps. Each can transfer a single file pretty quickly but where FireWire really shines is how fast it can repeat the process when there's a bunch of files, specifically smaller files such as music and pictures. The advantage FW has over USB is that FW was designed to do its thing without using any system memory or the CPU while USB does. This introduces latency into any I/O access and the more files you need transferred the more it adds up. Now you might not really notice it when adding say 3 o4 songs to your iPod but when you're adding entire albums or playlists it really becomes obvious and teeth grinding. The other advantages FW lords over USB is that it can supply more power and doesn't step down when adding a FW 400 device to a FW 800 bus.(USB 2 really slows to a crawl if you plug a USB 1.1 keyboard into its higher speed bus.) Originally Posted By: +Cube The flash based iPods aren't that big and you're rarely swapping out the entire storage.? iPhones go as high as 32 GB while the iPod Touch comes in at 64 GB. It's a pain when you have to restore your device for whatever reason or when doing firmware updates. Originally Posted By: +Cube The HD players are probably limited by the write speed to the HD, not the interface right? Last I checked neither interface can really saturate a hard drives bus. On this I could be mistaken though. _________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#37820 - 01/08/10 08:39 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: +Cube]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	Firewire is amazingly faster than USB in practice. None of the iPods come close to their max read/write speeds through USB. Don't forget that the MacBook Air runs off of a iPod hard drive, and that sure transfers data faster than an iPod. Firewire is full duplex while USB is half duplex. Therefore, when combined with file requests, 400 MB/s of Firewire will perform better than 480 MB/s (divided in half due to duplexity). Thats without even getting into Firewire 800 which is unbelievable when you get proper data transfer speeds out of it. USB 3.0 Should be nice, however. I think it's 3.2 GB/s (?) and is full duplex with supported devices. We should start seeing the interface in 2010 methinks. If thats the case, I don't see much hope for Firewire 3200 which, unless USB 3.0 can't resolve the client / host request shittyness, will go bye bye. _________________________ Signature
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#37821 - 01/08/10 08:59 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: The Tony]
Trekkie Trekkie Overdosed Registered: 06/18/00 Posts: 5296 Loc: Houston, TX	USB 3 is just as dead on arrival what with Light Peak around the corner. _________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#37822 - 01/08/10 11:22 AM Re: awesometastic [Re: Trekkie]
The Tony The Tony Overdosed Registered: 06/28/00 Posts: 5993 Loc: Durham, NC	mmmmmm lightpeak _________________________ Signature
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#37823 - 01/08/10 03:09 PM Re: awesometastic [Re: The Tony]
Tyr Tyr Overdosed Registered: 12/27/01 Posts: 5224 Loc: Lexington,KY	_________________________ "The weak die and the strong survive. If someone is too much of a pussy to put up with a little newbie hazing, we don't really need them."-Dew "We shall rule over this land and we shall call it...this land"-Wash
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